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the dividend will account for a larger share of the stock's total economy. liz: so the stock actually went up in price? >> i think we are headed back towards the 50s. it is an important trend and i think we are trending towards 50% there. liz: it's like we've been slammed in hammer. it's now a $4.36 price here. we like maggie, she's a smart leader, but you can't -- you talk about the dividends? >> it's important to look at the company. in total it has to have appreciation potential. liz: why canada? >> they surpass the u.s. on the economic freedom index. they are ahead of us now. liz: what are the metrics for the economic freedom? >> is a whole monetary fiscal policy. liz: is a great for businesses? >> it is. they ought to be the fiscal model of the g7. if you look at corporate taxes, they are all trending in the right direction from a public standpoint. the country has a lot of natural resources. liz: but you don't want to become like australia. >> in terms of being a natural resource country, they do have a lot of natural resources companies, but they have
the dividend will account for a larger share of the stock's total economy. liz: so the stock actually went up in price? >> i think we are headed back towards the 50s. it is an important trend and i think we are trending towards 50% there. liz: it's like we've been slammed in hammer. it's now a $4.36 price here. we like maggie, she's a smart leader, but you can't -- you talk about the dividends? >> it's important to look at the company. in total it has to have appreciation potential....
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the chinese economy is obviously a major and inner ene ener -- f iron ore. it looks that the fundamentals are in place for an aussie breakout. >> give us your levels, todd. >> sure. the australian dollar, technically speaking, is facing a breakout, 1.06. this is a range that's been in place for almost a year and a half. so, 1.06 is the entrillion on a weekly break. you want to take profit up around 110. >> all right, todd, thank you for that. todd gordon of aspen. and more money in motion every friday, 5:30 p.m. eastern time. tim, in terms of the iron ore, we saw big spikes in the price in fourth quarter in china. >> yeah, how about a vej mite sandwich, too? you have big chinese data coming out, but iron ore, goldman has that note out. watch that chart. >> let's play a little good, bad and ugly and tonight -- stars dan nay tan. first up, dan said to keep an eye on yahoo!. take a listen. >> the mighty goldman sachs reinitiated the stock with a buy of $22, 12-month price target. they say the sum of the parts is much greater. i actually agree. implied volatilit
the chinese economy is obviously a major and inner ene ener -- f iron ore. it looks that the fundamentals are in place for an aussie breakout. >> give us your levels, todd. >> sure. the australian dollar, technically speaking, is facing a breakout, 1.06. this is a range that's been in place for almost a year and a half. so, 1.06 is the entrillion on a weekly break. you want to take profit up around 110. >> all right, todd, thank you for that. todd gordon of aspen. and more...
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the economy will be picking up. housing likely to get in on it. >> maybe we're actually breaking -- maybe the valuations aren't -- >> based on what? >> come on, under wells fargo? >> michael dell, and suddenly, mr. skeptic -- >> overheated debt market, that's always a good sign for an economy. that's always a sign that things are getting a lot better. >> it's been getting overheated since 1979. >> big lbos. that worked out real well. no, i'm just -- there's housing, sales of pickups. sales of cars in europe for 2012, not so good. we'll talk about that. >> germany, the bmw sales, volkswagen sales. one of my cousins in mexico is near a bmw, new plant. the germans are down. they're buying like crazy. germany business, good. rest of the continent okay. ford cutting back very dramatically. >> boeing, more problems related to the dreamliner. japanese grounded their 787 for safety checks. the national transportation safety board, faa are going to japan to assess that incident. when the first problems arose last week, week
the economy will be picking up. housing likely to get in on it. >> maybe we're actually breaking -- maybe the valuations aren't -- >> based on what? >> come on, under wells fargo? >> michael dell, and suddenly, mr. skeptic -- >> overheated debt market, that's always a good sign for an economy. that's always a sign that things are getting a lot better. >> it's been getting overheated since 1979. >> big lbos. that worked out real well. no, i'm just --...
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the economy moving. and we're basically in that situation right now. all the productive capacity is there. all that's lacking is the intellectual clarity and the political will. >> you make this so clear in the book, that's why i recommended that president obama read this book as the one book i would like to see him read before the inauguration next week. if he read it, what would you hope he would fasten on? >> i would hope that he would fasten on the notion, you know, he faces real political constraint. so we understand, he can't just pass legislation. but that the most important thing, his policy priority right now should be doing whatever he can to at least move in the direction of the kinds of policies that we want for full employment, that we need for full employment. and that the obsessions of washington about a grand bargain on the deficit are really pretty much beside the point right now. that, if given a choice between doing something that will help the economy in the next two years, and someth
the economy moving. and we're basically in that situation right now. all the productive capacity is there. all that's lacking is the intellectual clarity and the political will. >> you make this so clear in the book, that's why i recommended that president obama read this book as the one book i would like to see him read before the inauguration next week. if he read it, what would you hope he would fasten on? >> i would hope that he would fasten on the notion, you know, he faces...
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the second-largest airline is said to be struggling with competition, high fuel prices and the german economy. australian vitamin and supplement maker swisse vitamins is crossing the pacific pond. the privately-held company will set up its north american headquarters in chicago and start selling its most popular products in walgreens stores starting february 1st. rite aid and target stores will start selling the products in april. the company's ceo says the products it sells will be manufactured in utah and florida. swisse vitamins is positioning itself as a premium product and intends to price its products 5-10% above competitors such as pfizer and bayer. the nation's largest retailer is reaching out to men and women in the service. wal-mart is offering a job to every veteran who honorably left the military in the past year. the program will continue for 5 years and is expected to provide work for more than 100,000 veterans. additionally, the retailer is committing to buying an additional $50 billion of u.s.- made products in the next 10 years. the government of japan joins the u.s. governme
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the two things that came out today were that to drags on the economy, housing and employment. they are getting better and consistently better. the confidence will be there. here is the big fear. we have a climate of worry. we are at a plateau because the next is what is going on in washington d.c. that scares me more than anything have seen in this market in years. liz: i no d.c. is an issue. it is something we cannot control, sadly enough, but we can serve to control whether we are jumping into this market. people are still sitting on the sidelines holding their worries, missing rallies like this. >> that only cause more confusion because we are not really breaking out on explosive volume, which is also another concern. with the breakup like this you want to see volume ramp up, which would indicate to you that people really have a change of mindset. at 400 million shares, you are not really breaking out yet. some people -- liz: composite track. that would be the highest. let me get to the energy complex. everything is higher right now, jonathan. is this all the very tense and
the two things that came out today were that to drags on the economy, housing and employment. they are getting better and consistently better. the confidence will be there. here is the big fear. we have a climate of worry. we are at a plateau because the next is what is going on in washington d.c. that scares me more than anything have seen in this market in years. liz: i no d.c. is an issue. it is something we cannot control, sadly enough, but we can serve to control whether we are jumping...
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grow the economy by bringing in some certainty to it. if he wants to fight hard for tax rate increases, he ought to be fighting just as hard for spending cuts. >> you know, governor, he made an interesting point during his news conference this week where he said if -- if this debate is just about reducing the fiscal deficit, he's on board and let's get it done, but he suspects that there are a lot of conservative republicans out there for whom this debate is about the bigger picture of the role the federal government plays in americans' lives, and he said that's not a debate he wants to have. he doesn't want to be cutting entitlement programs just because conservatives want to reduce the role of government in americans' lives. is it possible we're having two simultaneous debates at once here? >> well, he's got to reconcile the differences. almost like saying i know i'm overweight but don't ask me to go on a diet. i mean, there's got to be efficiencies found in the federal government. the fact that we're cutting spending doesn't mean that
grow the economy by bringing in some certainty to it. if he wants to fight hard for tax rate increases, he ought to be fighting just as hard for spending cuts. >> you know, governor, he made an interesting point during his news conference this week where he said if -- if this debate is just about reducing the fiscal deficit, he's on board and let's get it done, but he suspects that there are a lot of conservative republicans out there for whom this debate is about the bigger picture of...
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economy the american economy is not coming back neither is the british economy because the banks committed what's called a scorched earth being decimated the economy there is no potential for growth or jobs coming back because it's been utterly destroyed and glenn beck and these other folks know this so they're busy building castles surrounded by moments and on guns to try to hold on to the money that they stole but indeed in fact one of the at the forefront of this has been koch industries they've been behind the notion that workers should get paid less and less that you should compete with china so developer pitches one billion dollar commonwealth for belle isle a group of billionaires who have made their fortunes from corporate welfare want to turn an island park located in the detroit river into an offshore tax saving the guys behind this one of them was the former head of chrysler who drove with lee iacocca to washington d.c. to get jimmy carter at the time to bail out chrysler putting aside for a second the question of whether or not the koch brothers have this. you know this reminds
economy the american economy is not coming back neither is the british economy because the banks committed what's called a scorched earth being decimated the economy there is no potential for growth or jobs coming back because it's been utterly destroyed and glenn beck and these other folks know this so they're busy building castles surrounded by moments and on guns to try to hold on to the money that they stole but indeed in fact one of the at the forefront of this has been koch industries...
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economy barely grew 1% in the fourth quarter. we have a situation where it could be sluggish in the first quarter. we're up five points on the s&p since december since we had qe3 and the fed indicating they would target unemployment. to us it feels like we're in the stratosphere. >> the market down 20%. isn't that recession you're talking about? >> you got to think there's a danger. doesn't have to be a recession. you have to think there's a danger. if you look at the dynamics, you look at the consumer confidence numbers which are beginning to roll a little bit, there is a danger that could take place and a lot will depend on the resolution. look at the vix and these low levels on this downward sloping trend line the pattern is very similar to april of 2011. i'm sure you all remember that the stock market held up a little bit longer and turned in may and then between may and august it dropped 22%. what was the biggest factor? the debt ceiling negotiations. >> tom the market really rolled over in the spring of 2011 because trichet
economy barely grew 1% in the fourth quarter. we have a situation where it could be sluggish in the first quarter. we're up five points on the s&p since december since we had qe3 and the fed indicating they would target unemployment. to us it feels like we're in the stratosphere. >> the market down 20%. isn't that recession you're talking about? >> you got to think there's a danger. doesn't have to be a recession. you have to think there's a danger. if you look at the dynamics,...
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economy. we'll see their economy return to growth. and you can't ultimately pay down debt until you've got economic growth. >> and just to get a little specific, what trades do you like then given the scenario that you're laying out? >> i think generally -- i think the story about europe is a global one because it's been the biggest drag on global growth. we've had a global confidence cries us that has prevented all of this cash -- if you look at u.s. companies, there's $2 trillion of cash -- >> trades, trades, pierce, trades. >> equities primarily. >> okay. >> and then you can pick. i think it's still going to be a macro move. you say trade, you want me to talk about sectors or geographic locations, fine. i think generally equities will go higher. peripheral europe will still outperform as will china. i like china particularly because it's undervalued. i think they're going to benefit from the european story. >> we'll talk about what needs to happen in the bond markets, as well. >> yes. >> in
economy. we'll see their economy return to growth. and you can't ultimately pay down debt until you've got economic growth. >> and just to get a little specific, what trades do you like then given the scenario that you're laying out? >> i think generally -- i think the story about europe is a global one because it's been the biggest drag on global growth. we've had a global confidence cries us that has prevented all of this cash -- if you look at u.s. companies, there's $2 trillion...
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economy isn't picture perfect, but it is positive. today's beige book report showed signs of solid overall economic growth. each of the fed's 12 districts showed either "moderate" or "modest" growth, steady or expanding real estate activity, and some growth in consumer spending from december through the first week of january. but the fed noted job market conditions didn't change much. one reason companies are cautious about hiring, is they are worried about fiscal uncertainty in the u.s. and that uncertainty is growing as some republicans in washington argue for a narrow definition of what it means for the government to default. skipping payments on government bonds would be a default they say. but skipping payments for other government services wouldn't be. this debate could have real consequences, as darren gersh explains. >> reporter: next month, the u.s. government will owe $38 billion in interest payments on the debt it's sold to investors here and overseas. but the u.s. government will take in about $210 billion in tax revenues
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don't forget how large that economy is relative to the world economies so i think the market has nothing but not green shoots but blossoming flowers. go buy it. >> so why then, doc, are you still more cautious than the other guys? >> partly because, judge, i like owning options instead of owning equities. i just do. the only times i like owning equities are like for instance when joe and i fight about stocks with nice yield. i mean whether it's a verizon or whether it is intel, if i'm talking about a 4% dividend yielder that i can get in there and write options against it as well and take it to double digits on the return i like that. but i don't like buying apple. i don't like buying a lot of the stocks that don't have the yield, judge, that are attractive to me. instead, i trade the options. >> speaking of verizon i'm glad you mentioned it. next week is a bonanza earnings week. there are so many important companies reporting next week that that is going to decide where this market goes. don't you think? >> yes. the expectations in terms of what the potential growth for eps and the pote
don't forget how large that economy is relative to the world economies so i think the market has nothing but not green shoots but blossoming flowers. go buy it. >> so why then, doc, are you still more cautious than the other guys? >> partly because, judge, i like owning options instead of owning equities. i just do. the only times i like owning equities are like for instance when joe and i fight about stocks with nice yield. i mean whether it's a verizon or whether it is intel, if...
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chances are the economy is going to get better. wouldn't that make you want to buy stocks right now. >> it does. we're not -- we're actually a little bit more bullish, esespecially the first six months of the year. we still are expecting slow growth, commodities where we're shorting assets, but in terms of u.s. and in terms of international, we do expect growth, and we are excited about what's happening, but later on in the year i think it's going to be another story. >> what do you mean by that, later on in the year? what's going to be the upset later on in the year? >> there's a lot more issues coming out in terms of europe later in the year. right now it's all about -- it's all about expectations of positive growth that we have in the u.s., but, you know, we still have issues, and investors have got to focus on -- we've got an incredible spending problem. there's still problems in europe so we don't really believe that this year is going to be like last year, but we do expect small positive returns though. >> rick santelli, i wa
chances are the economy is going to get better. wouldn't that make you want to buy stocks right now. >> it does. we're not -- we're actually a little bit more bullish, esespecially the first six months of the year. we still are expecting slow growth, commodities where we're shorting assets, but in terms of u.s. and in terms of international, we do expect growth, and we are excited about what's happening, but later on in the year i think it's going to be another story. >> what do you...
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a new day for the president and he will have to decide whether to use that authority to rescue the economy from catastrophe. i can see why the president would be restrained on it. he wants to negotiate number one. he wants congress to be responsible, number two. you know, in the past, the debt ceiling was an opportunity for grand standing by both parties. in fact, senator obama voted against the debt ceiling increase. but it's been weaponized now. it has gone beyond grand standing into lectures on fiscal responsibility to justify -- go ahead. >> i see that and i absolutely -- i understand that. but one of your colleagues yesterday, tom grays of georgia, says the president is wrong to think that the debt ceiling increase is a rubber stamp. those days are over. this is one of the last stop signs left and congress should use it. can't you see why some members of congress and many people in the general population feel that way. i mean, why -- you know, they feel, we have tried everything else but we can't get congress, washington, to listen to the imperatives on spending cuts and so, can't you
a new day for the president and he will have to decide whether to use that authority to rescue the economy from catastrophe. i can see why the president would be restrained on it. he wants to negotiate number one. he wants congress to be responsible, number two. you know, in the past, the debt ceiling was an opportunity for grand standing by both parties. in fact, senator obama voted against the debt ceiling increase. but it's been weaponized now. it has gone beyond grand standing into lectures...
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economy hostage. they are saying no. we are holding the senate hostage it a debt limit increase, that's what they have to do and we will see how far they get with the proposal. if we do a short term extension of the debt limit we are going to make it be clean without conditions. and this is what the back and forth is going to be in the parties over the next couple of weeks. >> let's talk a little bit about two other major deadlines here. does this have any impact whatsoever john as far as can you see on the the impending so-called sequestering, which i believe kicks in sometime in the next six weeks or so. and then in late march, on the idea that the government will run out of money. there will be no authorization to spend anything more and the government could functionally shut down. is that involved here at all? >> not in a formal sense. but of course all of this is linked together, what the spending plans are to come up with cuts to avoid the budget sequester which neither party wants because it affects it in is indis
economy hostage. they are saying no. we are holding the senate hostage it a debt limit increase, that's what they have to do and we will see how far they get with the proposal. if we do a short term extension of the debt limit we are going to make it be clean without conditions. and this is what the back and forth is going to be in the parties over the next couple of weeks. >> let's talk a little bit about two other major deadlines here. does this have any impact whatsoever john as far as...
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if you believe the economy is stable which we do. i still think the high yield market will generate couponed return this year. maybe a touch better. quite frankly we'd love to see spreads widen out a little bit. we've had quite a rally at the beginning of the year, actually toward the end of last year into the beginning of the year. we'd love to see it back up a bit to create better value in the high yield market. i still think it's going to be a good year especially if we believe equities are going to have a solid performance. >> enis? >> enis taner. you mentioned global markets the yields coming down. what do you think about emerging market bonds? i know you've mentioned you like them. but the yield differential between developed markets and emerging markets is certainly compressed in the last year. >> yeah, yeah. enis, the story is everything compressing in the last year. it is -- searching out opportunity becomes the upside is limited given where spreads have gone to. we do think, though, that there are still -- you're seeing in
if you believe the economy is stable which we do. i still think the high yield market will generate couponed return this year. maybe a touch better. quite frankly we'd love to see spreads widen out a little bit. we've had quite a rally at the beginning of the year, actually toward the end of last year into the beginning of the year. we'd love to see it back up a bit to create better value in the high yield market. i still think it's going to be a good year especially if we believe equities are...
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the economy is morrow less back on track. we think there would be more proactive fiscal policies to come action but most of those announcements will come likely in march. >> the new government has made several nods towards urbanization, so we've seen material stocks go higher. investors like to think of china in the growth sector. is that where you see some of the best opportunities at this point? >> we do see a lot of those sectors did run up after the urbanization push and all of the news media coverage around it. we see more details on the exact urbanization probably in march or april, but at this point i think there's numerous ways to go. the obvious interpretation is more infrastructure investment, but other than the, premier to be has been very focused on the social safety net issues as well, saying he needs to migrate more people into the urban areas. you need to provide better health care and better social housing, so don'tunder estimate what we might see. >> another long-term issue is basic manufacturing is starting
the economy is morrow less back on track. we think there would be more proactive fiscal policies to come action but most of those announcements will come likely in march. >> the new government has made several nods towards urbanization, so we've seen material stocks go higher. investors like to think of china in the growth sector. is that where you see some of the best opportunities at this point? >> we do see a lot of those sectors did run up after the urbanization push and all of...
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so there are ways that we can do it, but to say that we're not -- we're going to jeopardize the economy of the united states and frankly even the world by not paying the bills that have already been incurred is absolutely -- [talking over to each other] david: you were willing to bring us to that brink in 02, 04, and 06. >> no i wasn't. david: you voted in favor of keeping the debt limit ceiling right where it was, that was the same kind of danger in going over into that default mode, no? >> it wasn't because that was a kind of protest vote knowing very full well that this was going to pass. are we seriously going to not let president bush pay for the debts that had been incurred? i absolutely would have voted in favor of raising the debt ceiling. david: final question about spending because i'm getting a wrap here. >> sure. david: we had in 2008 we had spending level of about 3 trillion dollars. in 2009 that ballooned up about 20% to about 3 1/2 trillion dollars. now, a lot of that was because of the stimulus program, which was part bush and part president obama. but then we remained a
so there are ways that we can do it, but to say that we're not -- we're going to jeopardize the economy of the united states and frankly even the world by not paying the bills that have already been incurred is absolutely -- [talking over to each other] david: you were willing to bring us to that brink in 02, 04, and 06. >> no i wasn't. david: you voted in favor of keeping the debt limit ceiling right where it was, that was the same kind of danger in going over into that default mode, no?...
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it would be a self-inflicted wound on the economy. it would slow down our growth, might tip us into recession, and ironically, would probably increase our deficit. so even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills, is irresponsible. it's absurd. as the speaker said two years ago, it would be, and i'm quoting, speaker boehner now, a finance ral disaster not only for us but for the worldwide economy. so we've got to pay our bills. and republicans in congress have two choices here. they can act responsibly and pay america's bills, or they can act irresponsibly and put america through another economic crisis. but they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. and they better choose quickly because time is running short. the last time republicans in congress even flirted with this idea our aaa credit
it would be a self-inflicted wound on the economy. it would slow down our growth, might tip us into recession, and ironically, would probably increase our deficit. so even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills, is irresponsible. it's absurd. as the speaker said two years ago, it would be, and i'm quoting, speaker boehner now, a finance ral disaster not only for us but for the worldwide economy. so we've got to pay our bills. and republicans...
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he can work on the economy and do something about gun violence. i don't think americans wanted to sit by. they want background checks. they want their children to be safe and keep their gun rights, too. all of that can be done with commonsense proposals, making sure people have their guns registered one way or the other. a lot of republican s and conservative democrats are standing in front of that because they want to make money with the gun industry instead of caring what the american people want. >> thank you so much for the interesting conversation. >>> is walmart's $50 billion pledge to build american-made products just bait and switch? some say it's a ploy to make you forget that the giant retailer also sells assault rifles. . uh, forgot jack's cereal. [ jack ] what's for breakfast? um... try the number one! yeah, this is pretty good. [ male announcer ] over a third of a day's fiber. fiber one. stress sweat is different than ordinary sweat. it smells worse. get 4x the protection against stress sweat. introducing new secret clinical strength
he can work on the economy and do something about gun violence. i don't think americans wanted to sit by. they want background checks. they want their children to be safe and keep their gun rights, too. all of that can be done with commonsense proposals, making sure people have their guns registered one way or the other. a lot of republican s and conservative democrats are standing in front of that because they want to make money with the gun industry instead of caring what the american people...
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. >>> we are moments away from the fed's latest read on the economy. here is how the markets are doing. right now the dow lost its strength, down 23 point on the trading session. s&p is dead in the water all hour and nasdaq is actually up about 10 points on the trading session, ty? >> sue w, watch this story in algeria. that does it for "power lunch." thanks for joining us today. >> and "street signs" begins now with breaking news on the fed and economy. >> that's right, sue and tyler. we have boeing in crisis. we have housing on the mend and five-star stock picks. we've also got the very latest on a scary story in algeria where militants say they have taken 41 people hostage, include something americans, at a bp oil field. well get to that in a moment but let us get to breaking news for the fed and how they are performing and get to steve liesman. steve? >> the federal reserve district says economic growth is modest to moderate in all 12 districts. that's how we normally lead but that's not the most important. what is important is the talk about how f
. >>> we are moments away from the fed's latest read on the economy. here is how the markets are doing. right now the dow lost its strength, down 23 point on the trading session. s&p is dead in the water all hour and nasdaq is actually up about 10 points on the trading session, ty? >> sue w, watch this story in algeria. that does it for "power lunch." thanks for joining us today. >> and "street signs" begins now with breaking news on the fed and...
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. >> for the economy? i think we have to divorce the economy from the market. >> have we been price thatting that out? >> we have to be clear that markets are totally different from the economy. for the markets, we're looking at 2% scenario. scenario a would be similar to 2012 where i think actually the economy doesn't do that well. the first half is difficult. second half is a bit better. we've still got the fed printing 5 billion a month. we could see a rerun of 2012. maybe mid to single high digit returns. >> did you get exposure of citi to bofa here? >> we wouldn't be. we're taking a little bit of money off the table or indeed i think we did. the level of implied volatility makes perfect sense here. >> we'll leave it here for now. thanks very much. over to you, ross. >> kelly, thanks for that. so we are just about an hour and 20 minutes into the trading day here in europe. you can see advancers just about outpace decliners by a ratio of 6 to 4 and we're up near the high point of the session which has d
. >> for the economy? i think we have to divorce the economy from the market. >> have we been price thatting that out? >> we have to be clear that markets are totally different from the economy. for the markets, we're looking at 2% scenario. scenario a would be similar to 2012 where i think actually the economy doesn't do that well. the first half is difficult. second half is a bit better. we've still got the fed printing 5 billion a month. we could see a rerun of 2012. maybe...
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economy. so guess what? the stock market is up as the consensus earnings estimate has come down. and so the bear aurchlt lacks an intellectual continuity where they were right on the earnings estimates come down, but they've goes to explain. so you think the as specs further identity are improving as we got past the tax cliff. we're going to get past the spending clip in an ugly way. you have to depend on washington, d.c. to give you some banana republic action before we get to the middle of 2013. but in the middle of 2013, we'll know what all of the rules are. and i think the capital spending orders are going to come back and reinforce the housing improvement that you described as well as a pretty good auto market. >> we are talking all day today because everybody got their paycheck and it is definitely smaller. it's always smaller t beginning of the year. but is there any way that there is a headwind from people just not having as much money? >> yes, there's a headwind for the economy and we
economy. so guess what? the stock market is up as the consensus earnings estimate has come down. and so the bear aurchlt lacks an intellectual continuity where they were right on the earnings estimates come down, but they've goes to explain. so you think the as specs further identity are improving as we got past the tax cliff. we're going to get past the spending clip in an ugly way. you have to depend on washington, d.c. to give you some banana republic action before we get to the middle of...
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debt as well as the global economy. according to rex macy it is. he thinks there's a good chance that risk fears will rise and, therefore, the market will pull back. will that be the moment for investors to get in. good to see you, gentlemen. thanks so much for joining us. what are you expecting in terms of this market 2013? >> sure. well, right now we're at 1472 on the s&p. we think it's going to go marginally higher from here, but it's not going to be a smooth ride. we've got a vix at 13 and change. that's too low. that's where the complacency comes from. you see it there. as we move into the debt ceiling debate, it can be far harder to solve than the taxes, we think the market can be down for a while, and before it comes back up. >> so you're looking for a decline, and perhaps that is an entry point for some. do you agree with that? >> i think any decline is an opportunity to buy, maria. i'm very, very bullish on u.s. equities and one of the main reasons i am the u.s. energy story which i think is a story that's not being told as well as it shou
debt as well as the global economy. according to rex macy it is. he thinks there's a good chance that risk fears will rise and, therefore, the market will pull back. will that be the moment for investors to get in. good to see you, gentlemen. thanks so much for joining us. what are you expecting in terms of this market 2013? >> sure. well, right now we're at 1472 on the s&p. we think it's going to go marginally higher from here, but it's not going to be a smooth ride. we've got a vix...
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and the fed said in its beige book, the economy expanded across much of the country last month, but hiring was hampered by politcial uncertainty coming from washington. todd horwitz of the adam mesh trading group joins us on this thursday morning. good morning to you. a lot of traders are talking 1475 in the s&p 500. what is it going to take to get there? > > good morning. you know, we're close. right now the markets are in a tug of war between the bears and the bulls. they are trying to get to that level. yesterday morning we had big boxcar earnings from j.p. morgan and goldman sachs. that was not enough to propel the markets through those levels. i think the market anticipated a lot of this good news ahead of time. so i think we are going to languish around here. you can see by the falling volatility and the complacent markets that we are probably a little ways away from pushing through that level. > what about citigroup and bank of america, which are now going to report in? > > i think those earnings will probably be just like j.p. morgan and goldman sachs. i think they will probably be
and the fed said in its beige book, the economy expanded across much of the country last month, but hiring was hampered by politcial uncertainty coming from washington. todd horwitz of the adam mesh trading group joins us on this thursday morning. good morning to you. a lot of traders are talking 1475 in the s&p 500. what is it going to take to get there? > > good morning. you know, we're close. right now the markets are in a tug of war between the bears and the bulls. they are trying...
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what do you think that tells us on where we are in the economy? >> look at numbers of the last week or two, retail production numbers for december, and they were actually pretty good. of course, the employment numbers we already know were soiled, and this is in a period where the uncertainty over the fiscal cliff was reaching a maximum. you know, maria, you think that's pretty encouraging that the economy has managed to cope with a high level of uncertainty. now the thing that kind of bothers me though is i'm a little bit worried that this coping is flipping over to complacency. the vix is now at a six-year low, and it tells me that the market is discounting 100% probability that we get through the debt ceiling without any trouble. that seems too high to me. >> so do you think the market is expecting that? i mean, when would you expect a big change in terms of the interest rate scenario? >> in terms of the interest rate scenario, probably nothing this year. i mean, we're at least a couple years away from a higher move -- a move higher in interest
what do you think that tells us on where we are in the economy? >> look at numbers of the last week or two, retail production numbers for december, and they were actually pretty good. of course, the employment numbers we already know were soiled, and this is in a period where the uncertainty over the fiscal cliff was reaching a maximum. you know, maria, you think that's pretty encouraging that the economy has managed to cope with a high level of uncertainty. now the thing that kind of...
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of global companies will descend on this other wise pretty quiet tone to talk about global economies most painful wounds and of course some of the ways they hope to help heal so let's rewind to katie's journey to doubt.
of global companies will descend on this other wise pretty quiet tone to talk about global economies most painful wounds and of course some of the ways they hope to help heal so let's rewind to katie's journey to doubt.
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economy. european economy. are they going to continue this, and guidance, digging down a little bit deeper into the 2013 story will be really key what the stock price does tomorrow. david: sandy, you have a little bit to add here on ebay, go ahead. >> the fact they beat four straight quarters and here they are with results pretty much right in line with analyst estimates might be the disappointment factor that is weighing in on the shares right now. after this beat we are slightly lower in after-hours trading. paypal was obviously very strong. i do want to point out that the stock has been rallying in anticipation of these numbers coming out point out. first couple weeks of the year, the stock is up 5%. there has been a lot of optimism and a lot of buying into this report. maybe a bit of selling on the news here. liz: sandra, shibani, thank you very much. we're watching ebay as well as gun control as the story develops. peter barnes is very latest on the president's announcement and comments on the issue. we'll
economy. european economy. are they going to continue this, and guidance, digging down a little bit deeper into the 2013 story will be really key what the stock price does tomorrow. david: sandy, you have a little bit to add here on ebay, go ahead. >> the fact they beat four straight quarters and here they are with results pretty much right in line with analyst estimates might be the disappointment factor that is weighing in on the shares right now. after this beat we are slightly lower...
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economy. his comments will set the tone for a fed meeting scheduled for later in the month. >> it will be interesting to see how that jives with what we heard over the weekend, as well. . >>> also, following, apple's report is slashing orders for iphone 5 components because of weak demand. reports suggested the tech giant discussed cutting orders for its iphone. >>> president joe biden is delivering a recommendation on reducing gun voice to the president tomorrow. he said several proposals have broad support, including enforcing background checks and banning high capacity ammunition magazines. biden was asked to come up with the recommendations following the sandy hook shootings last month. >>> the debt ceiling dispute is heating up. the white house says congress can pay its bills or it can fail to act and put the nation into default. some reports suggest the government could run out of cash to pay all its bills as early as mid february. >> thanks for that. there's plenty to keep you entertain
economy. his comments will set the tone for a fed meeting scheduled for later in the month. >> it will be interesting to see how that jives with what we heard over the weekend, as well. . >>> also, following, apple's report is slashing orders for iphone 5 components because of weak demand. reports suggested the tech giant discussed cutting orders for its iphone. >>> president joe biden is delivering a recommendation on reducing gun voice to the president tomorrow. he...
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about the fact that our economy is simply not growing? >> well, i haven't talked to the other republican governors, i think we all arrived at this independently. if there's a message i would send to the nation's capital, washington d.c., it's what i call a novel financial concept that we use in nebraska, they've never heard of there. we don't spend money we don't have and keeps us out of trouble every single day and they need to learn how to do it with their budget like we do with our family and business budget. >> that's true. >> you like that one. charles: that's novel. >> it is novel. >> the governor is putting out a picture in washington d.c. not spending money we don't have. nothing has more fiction than the tax code. my question, what's the reaction to the move here. >> the reaction in our state has been positive so far. the devil is in the details and i told nebraskaens we need a state-wi state-wide, they're not bashful sharing opinions with me. unlike the federal government we'll sit around the table and find a common sense soluti
about the fact that our economy is simply not growing? >> well, i haven't talked to the other republican governors, i think we all arrived at this independently. if there's a message i would send to the nation's capital, washington d.c., it's what i call a novel financial concept that we use in nebraska, they've never heard of there. we don't spend money we don't have and keeps us out of trouble every single day and they need to learn how to do it with their budget like we do with our...
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the fed is spending 6% more m-2 every year and that's helping the economy. but the real driver of growth is technology. it's the entrepreneur. it's the innovator. it's the creator. we have the cloud, the spark phone, attacking all of these great new technologies and that's what i try to draw investors' focus on. let's not pay so much attention to what government is doing. let's look at what is causing growth underneath, what has always caused growth and that's entrepreneurial activity, innovation, and activity. we have a lot of it going on right now. >> finally, brian, housing is turning into a pretty nice tail wind here. i wonder, though, you see the ten-year at 285. >> right. >> how much can the market withstand if the 30-year mortgage continues to tick up? >> when we go back to the early 1990s when housing was pretty strong, interest rates were a lot higher than they were today. i think the fed is artificially holding rates down. we could have the federal funds rate at 2, 2 1/2 without any harm to the economy. we could take the ten-year treasury up to 3,
the fed is spending 6% more m-2 every year and that's helping the economy. but the real driver of growth is technology. it's the entrepreneur. it's the innovator. it's the creator. we have the cloud, the spark phone, attacking all of these great new technologies and that's what i try to draw investors' focus on. let's not pay so much attention to what government is doing. let's look at what is causing growth underneath, what has always caused growth and that's entrepreneurial activity,...
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we'll get an indication of where the economy is going and where it's been. volatility, people also watching apple k. it regain $500, that's been, you know, a lot of chatter here and there. and then on the equities side, 1471.25 on s&p futures the high back a few days ago. if we could break through the level, you will see increased fund flows, more money coming to the market to the long side. and it seems like, you know, i'm really -- surprised because the debt ceiling concern and talks, it's been pretty much nonexistent on the industrial -- >> the markets at fresh five-year highs. >> yeah. it's all because we had the fiscal cliff. and it was so volatile coming into it. we saw some massive swings and massive breakdowns coming into it. it seemed like the market was all over the place. with the debt ceiling, everyone thinks they'll kick the can, raise the debt ceiling up, or get resolved within -- >> that mean the market's at risk? it would seem yes, right? >> see, if you -- my opinion of what will happen is if there's any small breakdown in it, you know, if th
we'll get an indication of where the economy is going and where it's been. volatility, people also watching apple k. it regain $500, that's been, you know, a lot of chatter here and there. and then on the equities side, 1471.25 on s&p futures the high back a few days ago. if we could break through the level, you will see increased fund flows, more money coming to the market to the long side. and it seems like, you know, i'm really -- surprised because the debt ceiling concern and talks,...
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the overall economy is now in focus. you and many other investors were bearish for most of 2012, now you're looking at consumer names like staples. where did staples come from in your mind? >> the data really supports, in my opinion, getting bullish now. i was bullish for most of 2012. i have been bullish for most of the time, but definitely second half of 2012 until the economic data, whether it was housing, whether it was consumption and even the labor market. i am not saying things are going gangbusters, but it is okay and makes us think what would happen if we didn't have to worry about all the drama in washington, d.c.? after marching something will be resolved one way or another, and we will be out of drama for a little while. i want to see how the economy picks up then. you asked about staples. cheryl: down 17%. and you are buying it? >> yes. it has been beaten down for number of valid reasons. a labor market that was punkish for a while. the lows in europe. this is 3.7% dividend yield, buying back shares, we like
the overall economy is now in focus. you and many other investors were bearish for most of 2012, now you're looking at consumer names like staples. where did staples come from in your mind? >> the data really supports, in my opinion, getting bullish now. i was bullish for most of 2012. i have been bullish for most of the time, but definitely second half of 2012 until the economic data, whether it was housing, whether it was consumption and even the labor market. i am not saying things are...
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is still a better economy than so many of the economies around the world. and so we benefit from that. we remain the a safe haven at the moment, until we aren't anymore. the question is, when will that happen. the second point is, markets have many immediate threats to be worried about. recently we had, are we going over the fiscal cliff or are we not. now the question whether the sequester will hit, which would be too much deficit reduction in too many parts of the budget too quickly. will we have a government shutdown because funding will end? and the debt ceiling there are a lot of action-forcing moments markets are worried about. the bigger issue is our deficits and debt. the fact that is more like thing from in the boiling water. it gradually undermines your economy's ability to perform, it hurts economic growth and takes away the stability that allows us to generate growth through investment, job creation, all the things we need to get the economy going. markets will not like to respond to that on any one day. it will hinder our economic performance.
is still a better economy than so many of the economies around the world. and so we benefit from that. we remain the a safe haven at the moment, until we aren't anymore. the question is, when will that happen. the second point is, markets have many immediate threats to be worried about. recently we had, are we going over the fiscal cliff or are we not. now the question whether the sequester will hit, which would be too much deficit reduction in too many parts of the budget too quickly. will we...
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the economy revving up in the fourth quarter. phil flynn of price futures group is in the trading pits of the cme for us. >> the most exciting thing that i heard today was that api report. yes, the man did that to the lowest level in over 16 years. production, the highest level since before the civil war, consider that. up 16%. that is an incredible number. it is really changing the global energy market. there will still be some risk factors going into the weekend. we are a little bit concerned. right now, prices are staying pretty steady. there are a lot of market ahead of this three-day holiday weekend. melissa: i am surprised that that kind of data does not have an impact on price. >> partly, it is because of the economics. the dollar viewpoint. demand growth in the future. the other issue is that what we will see is the global marketplace, as well, starting to get out into the global marketplace. it will drive up the cost of wti. really, you have to look at this bread. you know, we will see falling prices in europe. lower pro
the economy revving up in the fourth quarter. phil flynn of price futures group is in the trading pits of the cme for us. >> the most exciting thing that i heard today was that api report. yes, the man did that to the lowest level in over 16 years. production, the highest level since before the civil war, consider that. up 16%. that is an incredible number. it is really changing the global energy market. there will still be some risk factors going into the weekend. we are a little bit...
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crisis however germans are happy with the way that she's managed this crisis and managed germany's economy throughout it but as i say it's going to come down to whether she can convince the german people that she's the right person to manage german interests at home as well as those abroad whether she can win not third term towards the end of this year. well across the atlantic another leader is setting out his second term still these are live pictures about the farmer at the moment delivering the speech that he's. the next four years of his presidency and later in the program we will discuss whether he can live up to his promises. plus hungry for profits why investment bank is being blamed for forcing up food prices for everyone else the details in a couple of weeks. i . mean speak your language. programs and documentaries in arabic it's all here on all t.v. reporting from the world talks about six of v.i.p.'s interviews intriguing stories are you. trying. to find out more visit our big teeth. you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you
crisis however germans are happy with the way that she's managed this crisis and managed germany's economy throughout it but as i say it's going to come down to whether she can convince the german people that she's the right person to manage german interests at home as well as those abroad whether she can win not third term towards the end of this year. well across the atlantic another leader is setting out his second term still these are live pictures about the farmer at the moment delivering...